WiiM Ultra Firmware v5.2.704152 - Jan 10, 2025

[slartibartfast]

Good, but why is duration left as an option when you’re not playing content? I’ll probably raise a ticket.

Also seems to default name to the input parameter - need an option to change that.

Have you got 3.1 yet? I'm still waiting.

 

[Burnside]

It is indeed a shame - being unable to rename presets was raised very early on in the beta.

Yeah, there doesn’t seem to be much recognition of issues/ suggestions raised in the beta

Still think they should have implemented at a subset of the save config/profile feature I and others suggested, and have an option to save those against a preset. Would have been so much more powerful

 

[Wiimer]

Not really, you could say the same about PEQ for room correction but some users use different PEQ for different purposes. You could have room correction with and without subwoofer. Stereo and independent channel PEQ. If you still need to remember to change subwoofer settings (gain as well as crossover etc) and volume limit to match a particular PEQ you aren't going to bother using the presets.

I'm not sure, as I've never wanted to use different PEQs in one room, but I understand your point .

 

[hgo58]

I'm not sure, as I've never wanted to use different PEQs in one room, but I understand your point .

I think that among all users, all settings will be requested for Presets.

This just tells me that the design is wrong.

A Preset should save all available current settings with the option to overwrite or not when later selected (default to not overwrite).

 

[Burnside]

I think that among all users, all settings will be requested for Presets.

This just tells me that the design is wrong.

A Preset should save all available current settings with the option to overwrite or not when later selected (default to not overwrite).

Something like this then?

Post in thread 'Saved settings/ profiles'
https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/saved-settings-profiles.5049/post-88152

 

[hgo58]

Something like this then?

Post in thread 'Saved settings/ profiles'
https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/saved-settings-profiles.5049/post-88152

Yes, something like that but only internally saved on the device for all 12 Presets.

 

[Burnside]

Yes, something like that but only internally saved on the device for all 12 Presets.

Nothing to stop such configs being saved on the device e.g. save/restore could be device based with an export/import option for app or external storage. I’d see configs as independent from presets but able to be used by a preset if desired - a config would just be an optional attribute of a preset.

 

[hgo58]

Nothing to stop such configs being saved on the device e.g. save/restore could be device based with an export/import option for app or external storage. I’d see configs as independent from presets but able to be used by a preset if desired - a config would just be an optional attribute of a preset.

Yes. I did long ago suggest to have a set of profiles in parallel to the Presets. Also available in the WiiM Home App.

Assigning profiles to Presets would then be the option to use.

Unfortunately @WiiM Team decided on another design.

 

[Wiimer]

I think that among all users, all settings will be requested for Presets.

This just tells me that the design is wrong.

A Preset should save all available current settings with the option to overwrite or not when later selected (default to not overwrite).

Yes, that is the same Yamaha scene feature I (or we) have been proposing for some time.

However, the team chose a different path.

 

[harkpabst]

I'm not sure, as I've never wanted to use different PEQs in one room, but I understand your point .

This is the one point I actually understand very well. Even with the same "room correction EQ" (which depends on the room, furniture, room treatment, speakers and subwoofers, speaker positionsing) users should be able to apply "programme EQ".

This "programme EQ" should be applicable completely independent of but in combination with "room correction EQ" based on content (e.g. news, movies, music or musical styles), time of the day (e.g. low level night time listening), personal mood or even different listeners.

Abusing different subwoofer configurations for such needs (like "I don't need my sub for night time listening while the lady is asleep and the neighbors are just waiting to bang on the wall with a broomstick") is just that: abuse. Get one speaker (and subwoofer) setup that works accoustically correct (including RC) and use EQ for everything else. That's simpl the right way to do it.

I think that among all users, all settings will be requested for Presets.

This just tells me that the design is wrong

All settings, including those that are not available yet or might just be present internally?

What I mean by that is: I think there is value in defining a fixed set of parameters that are included in Smart Presets. And the way in which WiiM are developing new features has always been agile. They just don't do the big bang, they start with an MVP in production and build on that gradually.

Having said that, it's still a little surprising that improvements that have been asked for long ago during the beta phase (like renaming presents) did not make it into the production release. But there might be specific reasons for that.

 

[Wiimer]

This is the one point I actually understand very well. Even with the same "room correction EQ" (which depends on the room, furniture, room treatment, speakers and subwoofers, speaker positionsing) users should be able to apply "programme EQ".

This "programme EQ" should be applicable completely independent of but in combination with "room correction EQ" based on content (e.g. news, movies, music or musical styles), time of the day (e.g. low level night time listening), personal mood or even different listeners.

Abusing different subwoofer configurations for such needs (like "I don't need my sub for night time listening while the lady is asleep and the neighbors are just waiting to bang on the wall with a broomstick") is just that: abuse. Get one speaker (and subwoofer) setup that works accoustically correct (including RC) and use EQ for everything else. That's simpl the right way to do it.

Yeah, so let's hope the team will vote on your request and allow GEQ and PEQ to be independent, and individually configured with smart presets .

 

[DG77]

Here’s a golden goose question, did you hear improvement using usb over coax? In paper, using usb has the advantage but our ear is not instrumental grade where tiniest information can be detected. The usb in ultra remain active even goes on standby and the dac sense it why it doesn’t turn off. I’m using the trigger 12v on the amp. I did not know independent rc don’t work right till I read your message. I will do extensive listening and weigh in the pros and cons of usb. Having dac that won’t turn off like before was deal breaker for me.

In my case and setup I actually did, the low frequencies got more controlled, and overall it is a bit more ”tidier” sound. A very small difference though most likely due to improved ”timing”/clocking. I did A/B testing by having my Wiim connected both via usb and coax to my active speakers and switched between them.

Was it worth it for me? The price was the SMSL PO100pro, barely but yes.

 

[hgo58]

”timing”/clocking errors (jitter) would create high frequency noise, not impacting low frequencies.

The active speakers are probably reclocking anyway (mine does), so there shouldn't be any difference.

 

[DG77]

”timing”/clocking errors (jitter) would create high frequency noise, not impacting low frequencies.

The active speakers are probably reclocking anyway (mine does), so there shouldn't be any difference.

What speakers are you using hgo58? (Just curious, as I’m looking to switch)

Anyway there was a small difference, even the vibrations felt on my seat were less with the usb out then with coax (less boomy). With the exact same volume. Was it worth it or noticable? I think a good speaker cable would do way more if you use passive speakers. Or just improving placement of speakers in your room if you can.

Another thing it caused was increased speaker delay, from 4ms to 49ms… at least with my setup.
Something to consider if you watch movies as it might cause lip sync issues.

 

[hgo58]

What speakers are you using hgo58? (Just curious, as I’m looking to switch)

Anyway there was a small difference, even the vibrations felt on my seat were less with the usb out then with coax (less boomy). With the exact same volume. Was it worth it or noticable? I think a good speaker cable would do way more if you use passive speakers. Or just improving placement of speakers in your room if you can.

Another thing it caused was increased speaker delay, from 4ms to 49ms… at least with my setup.
Something to consider if you watch movies as it might cause lip sync issues.

I am using the Wharfedale Diamond A2 speakers (via optical) and using the WiiMs EQ/PEQ to get the exact sound I like.

 

[bever70]

I'm just happy the blurred sides option is back for the screen. Excellent!!!

 

[HoosierHiFi]

I just got the app update on iOS. Any word on the success of the usb+sub functionality? I’m eager to try it but will have some work moving things around so was hoping to hear some confirmation that it’s working first.

 

[QuarryHunslet]

I'm just happy the blurred sides option is back for the screen. Excellent!!!

I thought I read somewhere that there was going to be an option to have black sides.

 

[Burnside]

I thought I read somewhere that there was going to be an option to have black sides.

Not so far, just feature or blurred as far as I see

 

[DG77]

I just got the app update on iOS. Any word on the success of the usb+sub functionality? I’m eager to try it but will have some work moving things around so was hoping to hear some confirmation that it’s working first.

Well for some reason my SMSL Po100 pro stopped outputing sound, and dies..
Dont know if it was because of wiim ultra or just crappy Chinese quality.. really annoying!